Can I get a new boiler that is not condensing or combination, I have tenants?
I have a maisonette with reinforced concrete walls so drilling through is a nightmare, there is no obvious drain for condensation. I want to keep the water tank. The current (traditional) boiler is located in a bedroom. Can I have a boiler which is not condensing and still have a certificate to satisfy my letting responsibilities.
So I can have a conventional boiler. What should I have to pay for supply and fit, and which boiler do you recommend and why? Many thanks.
I think you have to fit a condensing boiler these days to satisfy building regs. It’s really no more difficult to fit a condenser than an old style boiler, and I have to agree that the tools available these days, such as diamond toothed core drills and the like will go through concrete and brick like nobody’s business.
I’ve just had a Vaillant EcoMAX Pro 18E boiler fitted in place of my old Baxi, and it’s only three-quarters the size of the Baxi, and a larger kW output. The existing balanced flue-hole was bricked in around the Vaillant Flue, and a core drill was used to fit the 1″ condensing pipe, and that took about 3 minutes to drill through a cavity wall, both sections.
So far, it’s saving me a fortune on gas as well.
You can install within the same bedroom a small wall mounted non combination nor condensing boiler with a ballanced flue as long as it’s mounted on an outside wall, no law as yet saying you must go condencing but they are more economical to run.
Further info. i would suggest a Ferroli, small. compact, spares easy to procure, easy to operate, £1200-£1500 supplied and fitted, hope this helps
The law in England & Wales changed in April 2005, which means only a condensing boiler can be fitted as a replacement boiler or complete new installation. There is a loophole at the moment, where a non-condensing boiler can be fitted, but to do this, you require an installer to fill out an exemption certificate application form, which has to be handed into your local building authority, who are the people who will say whether or not you can fit a non-condensing boiler!!! I am not an istaller, but i do work for the inustries leading boiler manufacturer, so i do have to keep up with the different rules & regs…. My biggest advice would be to get several corgi registered installers round to the property, who could advise on boiler type, fitting location, controls, flue options etc etc….
It is the law that you must have a condensing boiler if replacing your old one. To fit a boiler, the fitter must be corgi registered, and therefore by law they must fit a condensing boiler. To do otherwise, that person probably would have their corgi registration taken away, so you would find it very hard to find someone legit to fit any boiler other than what the law says you can have.
If necessary, the boiler can always be moved elsewhere with a bit of imagination, there is bound to be a drain somewhere to lead the pipe to outside, though legally it is important, in the real world it is a pipe that just drips so a drain isn’t all that.
If your current boiler is fixed, yes you can get a certificate, if not then no you can’t satisfy your letting responsibilities unless you follow the current law and go down the condensing route.